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Poster: xtifr Date: Sep 5, 2006 4:21pm
Forum: etree Subject: getting some perspective on the Archive

"The country"? Which country? As far as I know, very little of the population of China or India resides in the EST zone, just ferexample. If the Archive were to become a US-only thing, it would probably have to remove the vast majority of it's Web Archives, as well as fairly substantial parts of the Moving Pictures, Audio, and Texts collections.

Or perhaps you were under the impression that the Live Music Archive is somehow separate from the Internet Archive ss a whole? That used to be true to a small degree, but it no longer is. It was never intended to be the case at all.

The Archive is not here so a bunch of hippies can avoid spending their dope money on music -- that's just a pleasant fringe benefit. :) The Archive is here to help preserve the ephemeral digital culture and art of the 20th and 21st centuries.

From About IA: "The Internet Archive is working to prevent the Internet — a new medium with major historical significance — and other "born-digital" materials from disappearing into the past." and "The Internet Archive is opening its collections to researchers, historians, and scholars."

In other words, if you're not here for scholarly research, you're not the intended audience, and shouldn't complain if things aren't run to your liking. Everyone is welcome to use the Archive's resources (I know I'm not here for scholarly purposes), but keep in mind that the site is not here just so that we can have fun. The fact that a lot of Deadheads live on the east coast of the United States, for example, is irrelevant to the Internet Archive as a whole.

(Note: nagdot, this is not really directed at you; please don't take it personally. Your post was no more lacking in perspective than dozens of other posts made here each week. You simply provided a convenient excuse to post a rant I've been meaning to do for a while.)

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Poster: nagdot Date: Sep 5, 2006 7:20pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: getting some perspective on the Archive

i live in the midwest.est is my time zone(maine to indiana florida to like mississippi)daylight savings time is a portion of all time zones in north america but no where else i know of.i dont download,i stream only.if i want a show ill go see them live and either buy one or hook up thru trade.i only use live music archive and mainly for undersigned bands.i am not a deadhead. i am not a hippie. i grew up on punk disco retro and metal not to mention am radio my mom digs.i only know of bands from canada and the usa participating here maybe a few strays but mostly all bands are from usa.on my pc i cant tell the difference between lofi and hifi and in my car it doesnt matter since the road noise drowns out everything. i prefer aud recording due to thats wat it sounds like when you are there.i use sugarmegs more than archive for the reason of a better selection of bands not available to archive and no pause between songs.i dont think the archive is more important to donate to then the charities i already donate too.i help myself here. i help someone else with my donation,someone who really needs many dead shows can i listen to b4 i get bored so it isnt research for many ppl,at least not in live music archive.i can say it is for fun.i would also say with all the bands not in archive im sure historians and others would look to use a different site.besides i have 30 some odd yrs of music i have collected myself.i played in a band and never even taped it.i mean if were doin research wheres the elvis presley and bb king and frank sinatra and so on, heck wheres bob dylan.the grateful dead covered a ton of his stuff. this is a grate site but it really isnt all that esp with the hassle of opinions by ppl that constantly stir up trouble or the tons of technical issues i read of daily. im not sayin im not one of them but im not complainin bout usin the site for i use it for different reasons than you and you and again so on. with that my gregg allman/warren haynes show 9-2-06 from red rocks is bout done so peace and remember respect is wat will keep it all going